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#1 whispers98

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 08:42 PM

Hey all. I am cleaning out my basement getting a lot of old JD stuff out to display. I ran across a old bottle that I picked up in Tenn many years ago (15 or more) it is an old cork top bottle .The guy told me it was jack but did not know . I don't think it is but who know I have passed up JD before because I didn't know. so here it is!!! any help would be appreciated.

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#2 Ben Moller

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 09:04 PM

Hmmm Looks just like the Brandy bottle that JeePee has :) If it is its a nice bottle. (if you ever want to sell it let me know? : :) )

 

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(sorry for using your pic JP ;D )



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Posted 23 June 2007 - 10:41 PM

Wicked, could be a great score! :)/>

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 10:48 PM

Hmmm Looks just like the Brandy bottle that JeePee has :)/> If it is its a nice bottle. (if you ever want to sell it let me know? ::)/>)


Think you could be right Ben ;)/> Could be a great find there David (goodjob)/>

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 10:56 PM

Trade ya a box for it....lol

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 01:05 AM

post a pic of the box mark :)/>

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 03:37 AM

here it tis...sideways...lol

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 07:25 AM

That box looks in great condition Mark, if David isn't up for a swap I'd be interested in buying it from you ;)/>

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 11:19 AM

If that's the box that someone shipped with a label on you've done a good job removing it, and good job it wasn't damaged in the post.
I'd like one of those.
Nice bottle too, looks like the motlow, what markings are on the bottom of the bottle.

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 03:14 PM

This bottle is a 2 piece mold bottle and has several small bubbles in it. on the bottom it has a diamond with a I in it.has a Little purpl tint to it . not much but it little I'll try to take some good pics later

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Posted 24 June 2007 - 11:49 PM

Sounds like an Imperial Glass company stamp from my limited knowledge, I have one on an 1895 bottle. I think mine dates from 1904-1910.

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:13 AM

been researchng and have a time line now. Not imperial but Illinois glas co. I found this info at www.myinsulators.com/glass-factories/bottlemarks2.html

I within a diamond (shown)...........Illinois Glass Company, Alton, IL (1873-1929). This mark was used from around 1915 to 1929. ABM (Automatic bottle machine) production was begun at Illinois Glass in 1910, and although I had presumed that the "I in a diamond" trademark was first used around that time, the U.S.Patent & Trademark Office data indicates Illinois Glass claimed use of this trademark was not begun until 1915. As far as I know, this mark is seen only on machine-made bottles which exhibit the typical Owens machine suction scars on the base. On very small bottles, the "I" may look like a dot inside the diamond, or be virtually illegible. Other plants that became part of Illinois Glass Co. during its operation include the Thompson Bottle Company of Gas City, IN (acquired 1913); Chicago Heights Glass Company, Chicago Heights, IL (1913) and Cumberland Glass Manufacturing Company, Bridgeton, NJ (1920).
Illinois-Pacific Glass Co. plants (at Los Angeles and San Francisco, CA) were organized as a wholly owned subsidiary of Illinois Glass in 1902. (See IPG and IPGCO marks.) In 1929, Illinois Glass merged with Owens Bottle Company of Toledo, Ohio to form the Owens-Illinois Glass Company. The Alton factory (in later years, Owens-Illinois plant #7) closed in 1983. See also "I.G.CO." and "IGCO within a diamond" entries
So this bottle is pre pro around 1915 or later so the time line is right , see my post on whiskey papers Lem was making a lot of brandy then. that sheet was from 1914.

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 01:31 AM

Thanks for this info!
It's a nice bottle!

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 02:14 PM

Nice bottle Dave. It probably was, and most likely is, an old Jack bottle. But in my 35+ years of collecting, there is a rule of thumb I use...If it don't say "Jack", it ain't "Jack". There are lots of unmarked bottles around here we have found over the years that we know came from the Distillery grounds. Most collectors (including us) do not want them unless they are embossed or have an original label on them. That doesn't mean they are not nice bottles. It is just hard to prove they are Jack Daniel bottles without any markings. This is just my opinion, which means little or nothing!

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:38 PM

Hey all. I am cleaning out my basement getting a lot of old JD stuff out to display. I ran across a old bottle that I picked up in Tenn many years ago (15 or more) it is an old cork top bottle .The guy told me it was jack but did not know . I don't think it is but who know I have passed up JD before because I didn't know. so here it is!!! any help would be appreciated.


wish i could find things like this is my basement (even if i had one lol)

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:39 PM

here it tis...sideways...lol


Great box Mark glad to see the label came off easily

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:47 PM

It is a very nice bottle. Thanks for sharing. :toast2/>

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:18 PM

I have a bottle just like yours and I took it to Lynchburg back in March. I was told by several locals including Randy who has two of the shops there ( Formerly Sully's ) that mine was an original Apple Brandy bottle Told me to name my price !! Needless to say I still have mine and I suggest you keep yours too..I was told it was a very very rare bottle. Very few around because Apple Brandy was only produced for a year or so.. Hope this helps and congrats on a fantastic find !!
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PS Included a pic of mine

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:20 PM

Didn't attach the first time sorry

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:24 PM

couldn't attach pic too large. Will send it to you if you e-mail me @southrock@hotmail.com




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