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#41 JD.Maniac

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 07:45 PM

Just unbelievable ....WOW :o/>


TRULY AWESOME

#42 MikeandJack

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:40 PM

amazing find (score)/> thanks for sharing with us :yourock/>

I wonder if Frank knows anything about Sam Baxter ?


Frank was here when I took the pictures. He said there was a Baxter family in Lynchburg, but did not know of Sam Baxter.

#43 MikeandJack

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:42 PM

Wonderful bottles Mike.

I have seen and held an ORIGINAL 1904 Gold Medal bottle when i was in Tennesse in October 2008, very nice bottle.

Does the bar back bottle have a plastic seal over the top, from the main pic it looks as though it has???


No Ade, the top was taped on so it would not fall off and break while they were being transported.

#44 MikeandJack

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:43 PM

these are real gems, thanks Mike for letting us see them.

Personally I would see if JD would want to put them on display with a card saying on loan from the ......... family or do they already have these on show?


No. These are not on show, but in a private collection.

#45 Jack Devotees

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:39 PM

No. These are not on show, but in a private collection.


Your friend must have an amazing private collection, thanks for sharing.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:50 PM

Frank was here when I took the pictures. He said there was a Baxter family in Lynchburg, but did not know of Sam Baxter.


Goose's real name is Randy Baxter so could it be a relative of his ?

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 12:00 AM

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 12:27 AM

A full bodied sour mash corn whikey made by the original formula of sam baxter, a colored person who made whiskey on the plantation of Jack Daniel's father.

My opinion is Sam Baxter was a slave owned by Jack's father Calaway. I found this interesting read.

http://media.wiley.c.../0471273929.pdf

As far as the wording "colored" it would have been appropriate for the time the whiskey was made. The bottle is marked
"Federal Law Prohibits Sale or Reuse of this Bottle" which were produced between 1932-1964 and African Americans were called "coloreds" at this time.

Thanks for sharing these wonderful bottles Mike!!

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 12:42 AM

Never seen some of those myself. Very Impressed!!!!


Mike,

Was the Lem Motlow a "Double-Lip"?

#50 MikeandJack

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 10:15 AM

Goose's real name is Randy Baxter so could it be a relative of his ?


Goose is not a black man. His family could have owned slaves, that when freed, could have taken the family name. That is fairly common around here.

#51 MikeandJack

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 10:17 AM

Never seen some of those myself. Very Impressed!!!!


Mike,

Was the Lem Motlow a "Double-Lip"?



I was so excited I did not notice, but I do not think so.

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 02:19 PM

Goose is not a black man. His family could have owned slaves, that when freed, could have taken the family name. That is fairly common around here.


doh ..... of course, sorry not paying attention :D/>

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 03:14 PM

Those bottles are awesome! Thanks for the pics. :o/> :o/> :o/> :o/> :o/> :o/>

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 04:49 PM

Alright just my opion, I agree with Donna on the time line! Lem needed to make fast money after prohibition, he did bring out his 1 year old whiskey but Lem was a man of marketing, so I believe he produced this whiskey that was less than a year old, sold it cheap and put the wording on the back to get the poor and colored people to buy it ( and if someone bought it and did not care for it he had a fall guy ) and if you look at the label Jack Daniels prop, is very small on the front and the label does not look anything like a Lem or a Jack bottle previous to prohibition. So a quick review I think he sold this prior to the 1 year old whiskey to make money to get the business going and then came the Lem 1 year old whiskey:whistle

This is my opion only, but that is whats great about the unknown, we will never know ;D/>

#55 MikeandJack

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Posted 03 July 2010 - 09:27 PM

Alright just my opion, I agree with Donna on the time line! Lem needed to make fast money after prohibition, he did bring out his 1 year old whiskey but Lem was a man of marketing, so I believe he produced this whiskey that was less than a year old, sold it cheap and put the wording on the back to get the poor and colored people to buy it ( and if someone bought it and did not care for it he had a fall guy ) and if you look at the label Jack Daniels prop, is very small on the front and the label does not look anything like a Lem or a Jack bottle previous to prohibition. So a quick review I think he sold this prior to the 1 year old whiskey to make money to get the business going and then came the Lem 1 year old whiskey:whistle

This is my opion only, but that is whats great about the unknown, we will never know ;D/>


Jeff:
I believe your opinion is right on the button. After Lem opened the Distillery in 1938, after Prohibition, he needed to generate some income. He bottled this corn whiskey and some of the brandy's while the other whiskey "aged" in the barrels. This corn whiskey was probably "white", or clear whiskey. It was never put in the barrels. As you can see on the label, it was aged less than one month. I have heard several "old timers" say this corn whiskey and the brandy's were not very good to drink. Most people who bought and drank these probably threw the bottles away or broke them. That is why they are so rare. I have also heard that Lem really liked his brandy.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 05:24 AM

The mind boggles. :o/> :o/> Great pics.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 07:26 AM

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absolutely amazing bottles!!

did your friend say where they picked them up? were they from a private collector?
have to shop at his local shop too!!

#58 MikeandJack

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:34 AM

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absolutely amazing bottles!!

did your friend say where they picked them up? were they from a private collector?
have to shop at his local shop too!!


No. They did not. SERIOUS collectors NEVER tell where they get items. Too many people out there you cannot trust. ;)/> ;D/>

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 12:42 PM

Thanks for sharing Mike.
The Back Bar Bottle may have been a prototype for the Genie?
Looks very similar, may have been more expensive to produce than just plain??

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 12:55 PM

Just Checked this thread..... Thanks for your continued efforts in educating us on the history of "Jack Daniel" Mike - they were truly amazing pieces of history and to have survived this long makes them all the more precious and thanks to the new owner for allowing us to view them.




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